Had a really good (long!) chat with Dan Greef of the UK Low Carb podcast and you can hear it here or download it from your favourite podcast place.

I love Dan’s interviews – he’s a historian and politics guru so brings a great perspective to the world of health and I’ve learned a lot from listening to them.

What you won’t hear in this is the long chat we had beforehand that went into whales, Antartica and office furniture!